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What Color is Your Cloud?

By John | November 17, 2008

I’ll admit I have hated CA for as long as I can remember. At the first startup I ever worked at we used to have Mary Kay cosmetic like sessions with “Kill CA” painted in Pink blood all over our faces (not really, but close). Although, I have never worked for Tivoli directly, I have wiped my ass with ‘We hate CA” toilet paper at the old Tivoli headquarters. I have a old friend of mine who was told by Charles Wong, over the phone, that his jobs was fine after a CA acquisition. On that same day Wong flew into northern Virginia, took the keys to my friends company car, fired him, and made him take a cab home on his own dime. So it is with some twisted interest that I come to find that CA is the first of the Big Four to take the cloud serious. You can bet I will be following this story. However, here are some of my initial questions:

There are hundreds of more questions I am sure…

Topics: amazon, ca, cloud, ec2 | 6 Comments »

6 Responses to “What Color is Your Cloud?”

  1. Kris Buytaert Says:
    November 18th, 2008 at 6:25 am

    Guess you have found your enemy :)

  2. John Says:
    November 18th, 2008 at 7:02 am

    Ugggh CA as an enemy. I guess that doesn’t fit well with P09FJMW.COM

  3. Cary Says:
    November 18th, 2008 at 10:17 am

    Well lets be serious here.
    First, Charles Wong is long gone from CA. And, CA is no more ruthless than HP (who has been buying everything in sight) or IBM (also on a buying spree) or BMC (also buying what they can).

    Second, cloud providers must provide those monitoring and management tools.

    Third, HP and IBM are already offering their own version of “cloud” or “on demand.” So, other cloud providers cannot use their software.

    Fourth, that doesn’t leave much room for CA, BMC, Microsoft and others. Those firms must ally themselves with cloud providers and play nice – or, eventually, just die off. Those companies that don’t get on the boat soon will simply fade away.

    The problem with the cloud is that the scale and economics of it invites big players only – entrepreneuralism in computing is dead – big players only.

  4. John Says:
    November 18th, 2008 at 10:36 am

    There is a huge difference between buying companies and being ruthless when you buy companies. Trust me CA was ruthless. What I told is only the tip of the ice berg. I worked for Morino who became Legent who became CA. I also have seen a lot of blood from good friends who were at Platinum. I don’t know about HP but IBM has always been a solid citizen when it comes to acquisitions.

    Cloud providers provide select tools. Those tools are typically open source, however, they could just as well be proprietary.

    IBM does not have a cloud, IMHO. Furthermore, there is no reason IBM/Tivoli could not provide their software (monitoring, configuration, and provisioning) for the management of someone else’s cloud. They have been in Google and Ebay for years (not exactly clouds but close). I am surprised they haven’t made any partnerships with the likes of Rackspace, Gogrid, …

    However, their ROI is a tough sell against open source solutions.

  5. Jason Meiers Says:
    November 18th, 2008 at 7:45 pm

    I heard the same thing about CA acquisitions, ruthless.

    When the company I worked for got acquired by IBM they kept everyone on for at least a year, by then most people who wanted to leave found another opportunity at another start-up. For me the next career move bumped my salary level 50% just because the name IBM was on the resume. It’s been beneficial to this day and counting. I can only recommend it.

    Just my 2 cents.

  6. Links List 11.24.08 | ScienceLogic Says:
    November 24th, 2008 at 9:23 am

    [...] At CA World, CA announced a partnership with Amazon to provide “management capabilities around Amazon’s EC2 utility computing platform, potentially including discovery of software running on EC2 instances, performance monitoring, configuration management, software deployment capabilities and provisioning”. John Willis, in spite of some pretty funny potshots and stories about CA (don’t we all have them), writes that “CA is the first of the Big Four to take the cloud serious”. [...]