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Clouds so Swift

By John | March 15, 2008

Clouds so swift Rain won’t lift
Gate won’t close Railings froze
Get your mind off wintertime
You ain’t goin’ nowhere

Bob Dylan 

Looks like Mark Cathcart has another post talking about James recent post about clouds.  What’s funny is we both said “Who Cares”  at the same time.

Clouds and the governor

Topics: cloud computing | 2 Comments »

2 Responses to “Clouds so Swift”

  1. Mark Cathcart Says:
    March 15th, 2008 at 7:11 pm

    Actually John, I think you missed my key point which is much more radical, who cares about operating systems AT ALL. Necessary, but really not interesting. I don’t understand the religious ferver behind them anymore.
    See this blog entry from February
    http://cathcam.wordpress.com/2008/02/06/finally-on-the-same-page/

  2. John Says:
    March 15th, 2008 at 7:39 pm

    That is exactly my point. Here is my definition of a “holy grail” cloud as per my recent cloud presentation in Atlanta.

    1) Abstraction of the hardware from the service
    2) Abstraction of the software from the service

    See …

    http://www.johnmwillis.com/rightscale/cloud-talk/

    In other words a basic cloud should completely remove the dependence of a server. Therefore you should be able to take a system image (theoretically) and drop it in any other cloud. However, with the holy grail implementation you sould be able to take the service (i.e., server images don’t matter they are just a templates) and drop it in any other cloud. 3Tera is the farthest along in this type of implementation. Rightscale has the “Right” idea but they are a strictly EC based implementation. When/if they break out of that 3tera and Rightscale will be both in a standalone class.

    Thanks
    John

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