Comments on: Clouds so Swift http://www.johnmwillis.com/cloud-computing/clouds-so-swift/#utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=clouds-so-swift JOHNMWILLIS BLOG Sat, 13 Feb 2010 03:04:56 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: John http://www.johnmwillis.com/cloud-computing/clouds-so-swift/comment-page-1/#comment-3180 John Sun, 16 Mar 2008 00:39:32 +0000 http://www.johnmwillis.com/cloud-computing/clouds-so-swift/#comment-3180 <p>That is exactly my point. Here is my definition of a "holy grail" cloud as per my recent cloud presentation in Atlanta. </p> <p>1) Abstraction of the hardware from the service<br /> 2) Abstraction of the software from the service</p> <p>See ...</p> <p>http://www.johnmwillis.com/rightscale/cloud-talk/</p> <p>In other words a basic cloud should completely remove the dependence of a server. Therefore you should be able to take a system image (theoretically) and drop it in any other cloud. However, with the holy grail implementation you sould be able to take the service (i.e., server images don't matter they are just a templates) and drop it in any other cloud. 3Tera is the farthest along in this type of implementation. Rightscale has the "Right" idea but they are a strictly EC based implementation. When/if they break out of that 3tera and Rightscale will be both in a standalone class. </p> Thanks John That is exactly my point. Here is my definition of a “holy grail” cloud as per my recent cloud presentation in Atlanta.

1) Abstraction of the hardware from the service
2) Abstraction of the software from the service

See …

http://www.johnmwillis.com/rightscale/cloud-talk/

In other words a basic cloud should completely remove the dependence of a server. Therefore you should be able to take a system image (theoretically) and drop it in any other cloud. However, with the holy grail implementation you sould be able to take the service (i.e., server images don’t matter they are just a templates) and drop it in any other cloud. 3Tera is the farthest along in this type of implementation. Rightscale has the “Right” idea but they are a strictly EC based implementation. When/if they break out of that 3tera and Rightscale will be both in a standalone class.

Thanks
John

]]> By: Mark Cathcart http://www.johnmwillis.com/cloud-computing/clouds-so-swift/comment-page-1/#comment-3179 Mark Cathcart Sun, 16 Mar 2008 00:11:22 +0000 http://www.johnmwillis.com/cloud-computing/clouds-so-swift/#comment-3179 Actually John, I think you missed my key point which is much more radical, who cares about operating systems AT ALL. Necessary, but really not interesting. I don't understand the religious ferver behind them anymore. See this blog entry from February http://cathcam.wordpress.com/2008/02/06/finally-on-the-same-page/ Actually John, I think you missed my key point which is much more radical, who cares about operating systems AT ALL. Necessary, but really not interesting. I don’t understand the religious ferver behind them anymore.
See this blog entry from February
http://cathcam.wordpress.com/2008/02/06/finally-on-the-same-page/

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