Comments on: Who Coined The Phrase Cloud Computing? http://www.johnmwillis.com/cloud-computing/who-coined-the-phrase-cloud-computing/#utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=who-coined-the-phrase-cloud-computing JOHNMWILLIS BLOG Sat, 20 Feb 2010 03:25:51 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Jason Meiers http://www.johnmwillis.com/cloud-computing/who-coined-the-phrase-cloud-computing/comment-page-1/#comment-59791 Jason Meiers Wed, 15 Apr 2009 13:56:32 +0000 http://www.johnmwillis.com/?p=1427#comment-59791 John, thats a pretty interesting story from the 80's. Working with mainframes in 2009 things have changed a bit. On demand hardware resources for z/Linux lpars running Suse is reality and has been around for a while as well has added advanced technology changes VMWare, Zen and other virtualization technology havent even started to copy yet. For example, zAPP for Java http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/zaap/ to provided hardware scalability for enterprise java applications, not just an email spam app or facebook app but acutal life depending applications such as apps for Medicare and Medicade. Infrastruce-as-a-Service has been around forever its becoming more affordable thats the big change. And there is nothing wrong with that. my .03 cents, Jason John, thats a pretty interesting story from the 80’s.

Working with mainframes in 2009 things have changed a bit. On demand hardware resources for z/Linux lpars running Suse is reality and has been around for a while as well has added advanced technology changes VMWare, Zen and other virtualization technology havent even started to copy yet.

For example, zAPP for Java http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/zaap/ to provided hardware scalability for enterprise java applications, not just an email spam app or facebook app but acutal life depending applications such as apps for Medicare and Medicade.

Infrastruce-as-a-Service has been around forever its becoming more affordable thats the big change. And there is nothing wrong with that.

my .03 cents,
Jason

]]> By: John http://www.johnmwillis.com/cloud-computing/who-coined-the-phrase-cloud-computing/comment-page-1/#comment-57892 John Sun, 05 Apr 2009 13:10:05 +0000 http://www.johnmwillis.com/?p=1427#comment-57892 Dude, There's a lot of FUD in that post.. 1) Trying to argue that the monolithic mainframes of the 80's and 90's has always been CC is a real stretch. Take it from someone who was a systems programmer for 4081 MF in 1980. 2) Re: updates on a mainframe being easy. There are a lot of shops running 100's and more zlinux lpars on zos these days and they are just as complex to update. my .02 cents John Dude,

There’s a lot of FUD in that post..

1) Trying to argue that the monolithic mainframes of the 80’s and 90’s has always been CC is a real stretch. Take it from someone who was a systems programmer for 4081 MF in 1980.

2) Re: updates on a mainframe being easy. There are a lot of shops running 100’s and more zlinux lpars on zos these days and they are just as complex to update.

my .02 cents
John

]]> By: Jason Meiers http://www.johnmwillis.com/cloud-computing/who-coined-the-phrase-cloud-computing/comment-page-1/#comment-57699 Jason Meiers Sat, 04 Apr 2009 17:51:41 +0000 http://www.johnmwillis.com/?p=1427#comment-57699 Cloud Computing is from IBM, they have been providing on-demand application, infrastructure and service on demand forever. http://cloudcomputing.sys-con.com/node/644835 Cloud Computing is from IBM, they have been providing on-demand application, infrastructure and service on demand forever.
http://cloudcomputing.sys-con.com/node/644835

]]> By: 3Tera Chairman Barry X Lynn on the Origin of Cloud Computing | Big Winner http://www.johnmwillis.com/cloud-computing/who-coined-the-phrase-cloud-computing/comment-page-1/#comment-33794 3Tera Chairman Barry X Lynn on the Origin of Cloud Computing | Big Winner Thu, 15 Jan 2009 12:00:54 +0000 http://www.johnmwillis.com/?p=1427#comment-33794 [...] Link: Who Coined The Phrase Cloud Computing? [...] [...] Link: Who Coined The Phrase Cloud Computing? [...]

]]> By: John http://www.johnmwillis.com/cloud-computing/who-coined-the-phrase-cloud-computing/comment-page-1/#comment-31681 John Fri, 02 Jan 2009 18:29:20 +0000 http://www.johnmwillis.com/?p=1427#comment-31681 It really is a sad state when you only have one beer on New Years eve and go to bed at 12:15. http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3131/3159235047_d8dcb91c2c.jpg?v=0 Thanks John It really is a sad state when you only have one beer on New Years eve and go to bed at 12:15.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3131/3159235047_d8dcb91c2c.jpg?v=0

Thanks
John

]]> By: Barry X Lynn http://www.johnmwillis.com/cloud-computing/who-coined-the-phrase-cloud-computing/comment-page-1/#comment-31680 Barry X Lynn Fri, 02 Jan 2009 18:22:26 +0000 http://www.johnmwillis.com/?p=1427#comment-31680 John: Hey, I wasn't making fun of you. I was just trying to see if you were capable of paying attention on New Years Day after whatever debauchery you were guilty of the night before. The fact that both of us were lucid enough yesterday to post on a blog, is probably the real sign of our age. The first Tandem I acquired (pre- Wells Fargo) had serial # 6. Shows my age! Yes - the Telecoms (not Tandem) actually used the term "Cloud" in their marketing materials (in fairness, not "Cloud Computing"). They even all had PowerPoints (actually, they were probably overhead transparencies, as I recall)that showed your data center connected to a Cloud and your slave equipment (in this case, our ATMs) also connected to the same Cloud - yup - a picture of a Cloud and labeled "Cloud". But they didn't show anything inside the Cloud. That was the mystery, It was also a mystery to any network monitoring/management systems you may have had at the time! John: Hey, I wasn’t making fun of you. I was just trying to see if you were capable of paying attention on New Years Day after whatever debauchery you were guilty of the night before. The fact that both of us were lucid enough yesterday to post on a blog, is probably the real sign of our age.

The first Tandem I acquired (pre- Wells Fargo) had serial # 6. Shows my age!

Yes – the Telecoms (not Tandem) actually used the term “Cloud” in their marketing materials (in fairness, not “Cloud Computing”). They even all had PowerPoints (actually, they were probably overhead transparencies, as I recall)that showed your data center connected to a Cloud and your slave equipment (in this case, our ATMs) also connected to the same Cloud – yup – a picture of a Cloud and labeled “Cloud”. But they didn’t show anything inside the Cloud. That was the mystery,

It was also a mystery to any network monitoring/management systems you may have had at the time!

]]> By: John http://www.johnmwillis.com/cloud-computing/who-coined-the-phrase-cloud-computing/comment-page-1/#comment-31647 John Fri, 02 Jan 2009 12:08:39 +0000 http://www.johnmwillis.com/?p=1427#comment-31647 Thorsten, First off, thanks for not making fun of me :) I don't mind CEO's making fun of me but I have to draw the line at CTO's. That is a great point about making it stick. Unfortunately, I am late comer to cloud compared to guys like Reuven and you. I would have thought the hype around Amazon's EC2 would have been the one, but it sounds like it might have been someone/something else. Thanks John Thorsten,

First off, thanks for not making fun of me :) I don’t mind CEO’s making fun of me but I have to draw the line at CTO’s.

That is a great point about making it stick. Unfortunately, I am late comer to cloud compared to guys like Reuven and you. I would have thought the hype around Amazon’s EC2 would have been the one, but it sounds like it might have been someone/something else.

Thanks
John

]]> By: John http://www.johnmwillis.com/cloud-computing/who-coined-the-phrase-cloud-computing/comment-page-1/#comment-31646 John Fri, 02 Jan 2009 12:02:57 +0000 http://www.johnmwillis.com/?p=1427#comment-31646 Barry, At the risk of starting a hockey game.... Ok smarty pants, I was never a huge fan of TCAM and that TSO line editor stuff either, but, yes Virginia, I do remember TANDAM. They were that other whacky bunch on the other side of the comuter room (non IBM of course). We were way to busy writing system modification to our 4381's and Cray 2's to bother with those other type of weird computers. Anyway, did they actually use the phrase "Cloud Computing" during their marketing and usage of those machines? If so then I missed that one. btw... :) :) :) I added there smiles to let you know it is an honor to be made fun of by the CEO of 3Tera on my website. I encourage other CEO to pile on as well. Thanks :) BXL Barry,

At the risk of starting a hockey game….

Ok smarty pants, I was never a huge fan of TCAM and that TSO line editor stuff either, but, yes Virginia, I do remember TANDAM. They were that other whacky bunch on the other side of the comuter room (non IBM of course). We were way to busy writing system modification to our 4381’s and Cray 2’s to bother with those other type of weird computers.

Anyway, did they actually use the phrase “Cloud Computing” during their marketing and usage of those machines? If so then I missed that one.

btw… :) :) :) I added there smiles to let you know it is an honor to be made fun of by the CEO of 3Tera on my website. I encourage other CEO to pile on as well.

Thanks :)
BXL

]]> By: Thorsten von Eicken, CTO RightScale http://www.johnmwillis.com/cloud-computing/who-coined-the-phrase-cloud-computing/comment-page-1/#comment-31604 Thorsten von Eicken, CTO RightScale Fri, 02 Jan 2009 02:28:04 +0000 http://www.johnmwillis.com/?p=1427#comment-31604 I remember that while I was trying to come up with a name for RightScale in February-March 2007 it was not clear at all whether, when talking about Amazon EC2, the term "cloud" or the term "elastic" would stick. So if you're looking for the turning point where "cloud computing" became widely adopted I'm very confident that you have to look somewhere around summer-fall 2007. Schmidt may have pronounced "cloud computing" in 2006, but it certainly didn't catch on at that point. I would be more interested in knowing who "made it stick" than who pronounced it first. I remember that while I was trying to come up with a name for RightScale in February-March 2007 it was not clear at all whether, when talking about Amazon EC2, the term “cloud” or the term “elastic” would stick.
So if you’re looking for the turning point where “cloud computing” became widely adopted I’m very confident that you have to look somewhere around summer-fall 2007. Schmidt may have pronounced “cloud computing” in 2006, but it certainly didn’t catch on at that point. I would be more interested in knowing who “made it stick” than who pronounced it first.

]]> By: Barry X Lynn http://www.johnmwillis.com/cloud-computing/who-coined-the-phrase-cloud-computing/comment-page-1/#comment-31593 Barry X Lynn Fri, 02 Jan 2009 00:47:38 +0000 http://www.johnmwillis.com/?p=1427#comment-31593 Hi, guys. Barry X Lynn, 3tera here. Happy New Year! Now Reuven, I KNOW I am A LOT older than you are. But John, what's your excuse? :-) The first time I heard reference to something happening in the Cloud (having to do with IT of course), was before I was a poor entrepreneur - in the early '90s, when I had a real paying job! I was CIO of Wells Fargo at the time and every telecom and their mother was pitching to get my frame relay biz for our ATM network (as in Automated Teller Machine, Not Asynchronous Transfer Mode for my fellow lurking geeks). The then viable U.S. West got my business. Why? Well, they were the only one among all of them - AT&T, PacBell, Sprint, MCI, etc. who actually provided me with end to end visibility into my network. I could monitor everything from the ATM all the way to the Tandem mainframes (remember them, John?) that powered them and everything in between - every hub, router, switch. The others all pitched their Clouds - a mysterious network into which I could not see, but did not need to. All I could see was the equipment at the site of the ATM. I would just take it for granted that the rest of the network was there when I needed it. I thought - What a bunch of poppycock. They are all trying to sell me a deficiency as a feature. Little did I know that years later I would muse that not knowing would have been a blessing indeed!!! :-) B.XL. Hi, guys. Barry X Lynn, 3tera here. Happy New Year!

Now Reuven, I KNOW I am A LOT older than you are. But John, what’s your excuse? :-)

The first time I heard reference to something happening in the Cloud (having to do with IT of course), was before I was a poor entrepreneur – in the early ’90s, when I had a real paying job! I was CIO of Wells Fargo at the time and every telecom and their mother was pitching to get my frame relay biz for our ATM network (as in Automated Teller Machine, Not Asynchronous Transfer Mode for my fellow lurking geeks).

The then viable U.S. West got my business. Why?

Well, they were the only one among all of them – AT&T, PacBell, Sprint, MCI, etc. who actually provided me with end to end visibility into my network. I could monitor everything from the ATM all the way to the Tandem mainframes (remember them, John?) that powered them and everything in between – every hub, router, switch.

The others all pitched their Clouds – a mysterious network into which I could not see, but did not need to. All I could see was the equipment at the site of the ATM. I would just take it for granted that the rest of the network was there when I needed it.

I thought – What a bunch of poppycock. They are all trying to sell me a deficiency as a feature. Little did I know that years later I would muse that not knowing would have been a blessing indeed!!! :-) B.XL.

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