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		<title>By: IT&#8217;s About Uptime - The StackSafe Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; John Willis On IT Management and More</title>
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		<dc:creator>IT&#8217;s About Uptime - The StackSafe Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; John Willis On IT Management and More</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 03:03:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] StackSafe: What do you see as the future of the enterprise and cloud computing? [...]</description>
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		<title>By: health care utilization</title>
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		<dc:creator>health care utilization</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:46:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] companies can not afford to have market myopia. There are companies that don??t exist yet,http://www.johnmwillis.com/cloud-computing/cloud-computing-and-the-enterprise/HCUP-US OverviewThe HCUP pronounced &amp;quotH-CUP&amp;quot family of health care databases and related [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] companies can not afford to have market myopia. There are companies that don??t exist yet,http://www.johnmwillis.com/cloud-computing/cloud-computing-and-the-enterprise/HCUP-US OverviewThe HCUP pronounced &#38;quotH-CUP&#38;quot family of health care databases and related [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Cloud Computing offers Power to the People &#171; Technology, Mobility, Usability and other Musings</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cloud Computing offers Power to the People &#171; Technology, Mobility, Usability and other Musings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 17:17:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Although I&#8217;m focusing on it from an application developer&#8217;s perspective, it has lot more applications for the enterprise. Check out how cloud computing is enabling enterprise 2.0 here and here [...]</description>
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		<title>By: myopia</title>
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		<dc:creator>myopia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 09:33:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] companies can not afford to have market myopia. There are companies that don??t exist yet,http://www.johnmwillis.com/cloud-computing/cloud-computing-and-the-enterprise/Myopia NearsightednessAn encyclopedic, evidence-based treatise on myopia [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Cloud Computing Defined #1 &#124; Cloud Security</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cloud Computing Defined #1 &#124; Cloud Security</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 21:38:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the ESM blog: IMO, A the holy grail cloud has only two primary characteristics and five secondary [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Cloud Review &#124; John M Willis ESM Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cloud Review &#124; John M Willis ESM Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 11:56:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: February 2008 - Review Post &#124; John M Willis ESM Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>February 2008 - Review Post &#124; John M Willis ESM Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 23:24:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 14:44:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do use FULL FEEDS :) 

I sometimes split my longer articles so that they don&#039;t take up the complete page. 

Great comment...

Unfortunately &quot;cloud computing&quot; is the best we got for describing this.  Kind of like Web 2.0 it becomes a language term that we can all sort-of agree upon to have the discussion. 

IMO, A the holy grail cloud has only two primary characteristics and five secondary add-ons.

Primary

1) It uses comodity based hardware as it&#039;s base.  Hardware can be replaced at anytime and have no effect on the cloud.
2) It uses commodity based software containers.  For example an image should be able to be pulled from one cloud provider to any other cloud provider.

Some secondary characteristics are: 

1) Virtualization
2) Abstraction layer for the hardware, software, and configuration of systems.
3) Pay as you go with no lock-in
4) Dynamic horizontal and vertical scaling
5) Flexible migration and restart capabilities

Under the primary characteristics in my definition then yes an in-house 3Tera implementaion would be, IMO, a cloud. By definition you could take the 3Tera image and move it to any other commodity hardware infrastructure and it will start right up.     

Thanks
John</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do use FULL FEEDS <img src='http://www.johnmwillis.com/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>I sometimes split my longer articles so that they don&#8217;t take up the complete page. </p>
<p>Great comment&#8230;</p>
<p>Unfortunately &#8220;cloud computing&#8221; is the best we got for describing this.  Kind of like Web 2.0 it becomes a language term that we can all sort-of agree upon to have the discussion. </p>
<p>IMO, A the holy grail cloud has only two primary characteristics and five secondary add-ons.</p>
<p>Primary</p>
<p>1) It uses comodity based hardware as it&#8217;s base.  Hardware can be replaced at anytime and have no effect on the cloud.<br />
2) It uses commodity based software containers.  For example an image should be able to be pulled from one cloud provider to any other cloud provider.</p>
<p>Some secondary characteristics are: </p>
<p>1) Virtualization<br />
2) Abstraction layer for the hardware, software, and configuration of systems.<br />
3) Pay as you go with no lock-in<br />
4) Dynamic horizontal and vertical scaling<br />
5) Flexible migration and restart capabilities</p>
<p>Under the primary characteristics in my definition then yes an in-house 3Tera implementaion would be, IMO, a cloud. By definition you could take the 3Tera image and move it to any other commodity hardware infrastructure and it will start right up.     </p>
<p>Thanks<br />
John</p>
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		<title>By: Berkay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Berkay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 13:11:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did I just get a full feed? excellent :) 

John, &quot;cloud computing&quot; like many other terms in IT is getting polluted rapidly. I already am not sure what it means anymore. 

For example, is it &quot;cloud computing&quot; if corporate IT sets up virtual environment inhouse, say using technologies like 3Tera? or does it have to be somewhere out on the web? I think this is a distinction worth analyzing.

I see much more possibility for penetration inside corporate walls than outside. Most of the customers I work with are going the opposite direction of using anything in the cloud. Security is the dominant force (admittedly customers I work with are financial institutions and service providers), much more powerful than any cost cutting initiative. We are asked to isolate the systems/applications even from the internal users, etc. 

Are the clouds white or gray :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did I just get a full feed? excellent <img src='http://www.johnmwillis.com/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>John, &#8220;cloud computing&#8221; like many other terms in IT is getting polluted rapidly. I already am not sure what it means anymore. </p>
<p>For example, is it &#8220;cloud computing&#8221; if corporate IT sets up virtual environment inhouse, say using technologies like 3Tera? or does it have to be somewhere out on the web? I think this is a distinction worth analyzing.</p>
<p>I see much more possibility for penetration inside corporate walls than outside. Most of the customers I work with are going the opposite direction of using anything in the cloud. Security is the dominant force (admittedly customers I work with are financial institutions and service providers), much more powerful than any cost cutting initiative. We are asked to isolate the systems/applications even from the internal users, etc. </p>
<p>Are the clouds white or gray <img src='http://www.johnmwillis.com/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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