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		<title>By: Robert Patt-Corner</title>
		<link>http://www.johnmwillis.com/ibm/is-everyone-an-aas/comment-page-1/#comment-66975</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Patt-Corner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 10:55:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems to me part of evolving a new paradigm is growing the mental models that support and surround it.  Hence the &quot;pace&quot; of donkeys here.

When a fit seems forced, as you&#039;ve pointed out, it sometimes means the model&#039;s fundamentally flawed; other times it means the model&#039;s incomplete and needs extension.  I&#039;d like to suggest we have the second case here.

Many, not all, of the services mentioned that fit badly in the aaS stack can be seeen as cross cutting aspects of services that do fit the stack; in particular management aspects.

Perhaps the aaS needs a rider or two, along the side of the stack (sidesaddle?).  Something like this:



M...SaaS
G...PaaS
T...IaaS

There are a few other cross cutters too.  Perhaps we need the equivalent of Spring or AspectJ for the cloud to weave the aspects in.

In short, not sure we should throw out the aaS with the baathwater.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems to me part of evolving a new paradigm is growing the mental models that support and surround it.  Hence the &#8220;pace&#8221; of donkeys here.</p>
<p>When a fit seems forced, as you&#8217;ve pointed out, it sometimes means the model&#8217;s fundamentally flawed; other times it means the model&#8217;s incomplete and needs extension.  I&#8217;d like to suggest we have the second case here.</p>
<p>Many, not all, of the services mentioned that fit badly in the aaS stack can be seeen as cross cutting aspects of services that do fit the stack; in particular management aspects.</p>
<p>Perhaps the aaS needs a rider or two, along the side of the stack (sidesaddle?).  Something like this:</p>
<p>M&#8230;SaaS<br />
G&#8230;PaaS<br />
T&#8230;IaaS</p>
<p>There are a few other cross cutters too.  Perhaps we need the equivalent of Spring or AspectJ for the cloud to weave the aspects in.</p>
<p>In short, not sure we should throw out the aaS with the baathwater.</p>
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		<title>By: What is cloud computing? &#124; Results videos photos news blogs At I google wiki . com</title>
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		<dc:creator>What is cloud computing? &#124; Results videos photos news blogs At I google wiki . com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 03:59:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] expounds on the aaS point with a bit of humor. He recently shared a discussion from an Awesome meeting, in which attendees [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Colocation &#187; Blog Archive &#187; What is cloud computing?</title>
		<link>http://www.johnmwillis.com/ibm/is-everyone-an-aas/comment-page-1/#comment-25662</link>
		<dc:creator>Colocation &#187; Blog Archive &#187; What is cloud computing?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 14:47:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] expounds on the aaS point with a bit of humor. He recently shared a discussion from an Awesome meeting, in which attendees [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Sam Johnston</title>
		<link>http://www.johnmwillis.com/ibm/is-everyone-an-aas/comment-page-1/#comment-12162</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam Johnston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 09:35:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wrote about &#039;Everything as a service&#039;, or &#039;EaaS&#039;, &#039;XaaS&#039;, &#039;*aaS&#039;, or just plain &#039;aaS&#039; at Wikipedia last week with a view to collating the key characteristics of aaS-centric offerings:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everything_as_a_service

This was a precursor to a complete overhaul of the cloud computing article, and indeed the aaS is in the cloud:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_computing

Making everything an aaS just won&#039;t do though and the proliferation of aaSes has to stop. Fortunately dropping the aaS and prepending &#039;Cloud&#039; works nicely most of the time:

Cloud applications
Cloud platforms
Cloud infrastructure

Cheers,

Sam</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wrote about &#8216;Everything as a service&#8217;, or &#8216;EaaS&#8217;, &#8216;XaaS&#8217;, &#8216;*aaS&#8217;, or just plain &#8216;aaS&#8217; at Wikipedia last week with a view to collating the key characteristics of aaS-centric offerings:</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everything_as_a_service" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everything_as_a_service</a></p>
<p>This was a precursor to a complete overhaul of the cloud computing article, and indeed the aaS is in the cloud:</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_computing" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_computing</a></p>
<p>Making everything an aaS just won&#8217;t do though and the proliferation of aaSes has to stop. Fortunately dropping the aaS and prepending &#8216;Cloud&#8217; works nicely most of the time:</p>
<p>Cloud applications<br />
Cloud platforms<br />
Cloud infrastructure</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Sam</p>
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		<title>By: Cloud Review &#124; IT Management and Cloud Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.johnmwillis.com/ibm/is-everyone-an-aas/comment-page-1/#comment-10101</link>
		<dc:creator>Cloud Review &#124; IT Management and Cloud Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 22:40:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: What is cloud computing? &#8212; Server Specs</title>
		<link>http://www.johnmwillis.com/ibm/is-everyone-an-aas/comment-page-1/#comment-9694</link>
		<dc:creator>What is cloud computing? &#8212; Server Specs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 18:52:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] expounds on the aaS point with a bit of humor. He recently shared a discussion from an Awesome meeting, in which attendees [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Is Guitar Hero a Cloud? The Cloud Wars &#124; IT Management and Cloud Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.johnmwillis.com/ibm/is-everyone-an-aas/comment-page-1/#comment-9512</link>
		<dc:creator>Is Guitar Hero a Cloud? The Cloud Wars &#124; IT Management and Cloud Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 19:58:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 11 list was a little to long when it included SalesForce.com and Akamai as cloud providers. The general consensus seems to be, if you are a SaaS, PaaS, or a IaaS you are probably a cloud and this makes the list even [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 11 list was a little to long when it included SalesForce.com and Akamai as cloud providers. The general consensus seems to be, if you are a SaaS, PaaS, or a IaaS you are probably a cloud and this makes the list even [...]</p>
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		<title>By: June 2008 Review Post &#124; IT Management and Cloud Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.johnmwillis.com/ibm/is-everyone-an-aas/comment-page-1/#comment-8900</link>
		<dc:creator>June 2008 Review Post &#124; IT Management and Cloud Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 01:38:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] little secret behind a lot of what is going on in the clouds. I also made an aaS out of myself with this particular post and I made a few of the nice boys and girls at Hyperic kinda mad at me with this one as well. I [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] little secret behind a lot of what is going on in the clouds. I also made an aaS out of myself with this particular post and I made a few of the nice boys and girls at Hyperic kinda mad at me with this one as well. I [...]</p>
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		<title>By: People Over Process &#187; Hyperic CloudStatus - Starting the Ball Rolling</title>
		<link>http://www.johnmwillis.com/ibm/is-everyone-an-aas/comment-page-1/#comment-8514</link>
		<dc:creator>People Over Process &#187; Hyperic CloudStatus - Starting the Ball Rolling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 19:11:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] into Amazon EC2 - there aren&#8217;t a whole hell of a lotta services that simply do monitoring of *aaSes. Sure, you can ping things all day long - check for basic uptime - but the metrics beyond uptime [...]</description>
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		<title>By: People Over Process &#187; SalesForce-to-Google and the Force.com PaaS Lock-in Question</title>
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		<dc:creator>People Over Process &#187; SalesForce-to-Google and the Force.com PaaS Lock-in Question</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 06:15:12 +0000</pubDate>
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