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Top 10 Why Tivoli Will Not Invest The Framework

By John | April 17, 2008

There is a recent discussion on the Tivoli mailing list about what IBM/Tivoli is going to do about the old Tivoli Framework product. There have been some suggestions from customers that IBM keep a lighter version of the product and support it. As I close in to about 15 years of working with “This Beast” here are some of my thoughts.

The economics of IBM supporting the Framework are basically impossible

Top 10 Framework Reality check.

1) It is not a revenue producing product. .
2) The code base is around 20 years old.
3) The code base is based on pre Corba v1 specs.
4) The code base is mostly C and all of the original developers are gone.
5) Java not C is IBM’s core competency.
6) Very few people inside or outside of IBM understand the ORB and object repository architecture of the Framework
7) A re-write of the Framework has been tried twice and both times were disasters.
8) Almost all of Tivoli’s revenue producing code base is not supported and will never be supported on the Framework.
9) No bean counter in IBM would approve new funding for a Framework project.
10) The suggestion is that the software will support it self. In the software business that is not an option. The product is either supported and in which case it needs to be tested on every new operating system release and protocol change or it is not supported.

IBM/Tivoli has been a Frameworkless ship floating along for many years now. First they were going to replace the framework with the TPM agent architecture and that never panned out. Then they were going to replace the Framework with a WAS based architecture (then they acquired Candle). If you think about it IBM has developed very little software in the last 10 years. As Tivoli fiercely struggles to integrate almost 10 billion dollars worth of newly acquired software my guess is that updating and maintaining the Framework are the last things on their minds.

Just my .02 cents

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Topics: ibm, tivoli | 4 Comments »

4 Responses to “Top 10 Why Tivoli Will Not Invest The Framework”

  1. People Over Process » IT Management Podcast #10 - Tivoli and the Little 3 Says:
    April 17th, 2008 at 8:01 pm

    [...] We wrap up the Tivoli segment by discussing the recent discussion in the Tivoli community about open sourcing the aging Tivoli Framework. [...]

  2. JC Says:
    September 9th, 2008 at 3:44 pm

    Can’t get them all right, John. Just a month after you posted this, apparently IBM presented this “future” of Framework 4.3.1!?$FILE/TCM%20enhancements.pdf

  3. John Says:
    September 10th, 2008 at 11:32 am

    Is it a stop gap or do you think they are truly going to revitalize it?

  4. JC Says:
    September 10th, 2008 at 12:15 pm

    BTW – that URL had a dollar sign stripped by the blogging software, so it’ll give you an error when clicked. To correct it put a dollar sign $ in front of the word FILE near the end.