Comments on: IT Management Podcast #016 – She’s using the router to dry her clothes http://www.johnmwillis.com/itmanagementguys/it-management-podcast-016/#utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=it-management-podcast-016 JOHNMWILLIS BLOG Sat, 20 Feb 2010 03:25:51 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Will OpenNMS v Netcool be the Getteysburg | IT Management and Cloud Blog http://www.johnmwillis.com/itmanagementguys/it-management-podcast-016/comment-page-1/#comment-10857 Will OpenNMS v Netcool be the Getteysburg | IT Management and Cloud Blog Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:45:50 +0000 http://www.johnmwillis.com/?p=1103#comment-10857 [...] a recent IT Management podcast, Tarus Balog of OpenNMS was making some bold statements about OpenNMS against the IBM Netcool [...] [...] a recent IT Management podcast, Tarus Balog of OpenNMS was making some bold statements about OpenNMS against the IBM Netcool [...]

]]> By: John http://www.johnmwillis.com/itmanagementguys/it-management-podcast-016/comment-page-1/#comment-10385 John Fri, 18 Jul 2008 14:04:14 +0000 http://www.johnmwillis.com/?p=1103#comment-10385 Bingo! That was the point I have been trying to make. I am actually cleaning up a post I wrote after that call about per-seat pricing and the new data center models (I hate doing the grammar thing). You know I am a fan of Zenoss (I'll admit here) .. however when it comes down to brass knuckles Zenoss, Hyperic, and Groundwork all charge by the seat or server type for their enterprise support as do the proprietary companies. What they offer as free is not really relevant to the discussion because any serious "enterprise" is going to want support ... IMO... I totally agree with you that current cost models are going to have to change in a world where servers are a true commodity. Thanks John Bingo!

That was the point I have been trying to make. I am actually cleaning up a post I wrote after that call about per-seat pricing and the new data center models (I hate doing the grammar thing). You know I am a fan of Zenoss (I’ll admit here) .. however when it comes down to brass knuckles Zenoss, Hyperic, and Groundwork all charge by the seat or server type for their enterprise support as do the proprietary companies. What they offer as free is not really relevant to the discussion because any serious “enterprise” is going to want support … IMO… I totally agree with you that current cost models are going to have to change in a world where servers are a true commodity.

Thanks
John

]]> By: p-brane http://www.johnmwillis.com/itmanagementguys/it-management-podcast-016/comment-page-1/#comment-10383 p-brane Fri, 18 Jul 2008 13:49:14 +0000 http://www.johnmwillis.com/?p=1103#comment-10383 John, thanks for throwing T a bone (lol) by acknowledging the issues facing companies that have per entity this and per entity that software licensing models. We can certainly still have spirited discussions about software that is free and truly open but cloud computing is going to force all commercial licensing to re-invent revenue models. I also agree with you that cloud computing (call it what you want, utility or grid computing) is going change the way we think about "systems" forever; and hence, network and systems management. To everyone that isn't 45+ years old and that grew up with a PC in every room in their house ;-)... the mainframe is back with from the genetic engineering and weight loss farm, has a new wardrobe, and it's pissed. For those not paying attention, if you have a PhD in Cryptology, you've got the golden ticket. Caio John, thanks for throwing T a bone (lol) by acknowledging the issues facing companies that have per entity this and per entity that software licensing models. We can certainly still have spirited discussions about software that is free and truly open but cloud computing is going to force all commercial licensing to re-invent revenue models.

I also agree with you that cloud computing (call it what you want, utility or grid computing) is going change the way we think about “systems” forever; and hence, network and systems management.

To everyone that isn’t 45+ years old and that grew up with a PC in every room in their house ;-) … the mainframe is back with from the genetic engineering and weight loss farm, has a new wardrobe, and it’s pissed. For those not paying attention, if you have a PhD in Cryptology, you’ve got the golden ticket.

Caio

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