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Zabbix Finds a Home in USA

By John | November 29, 2007

Zabbix is an interesting open source monitoring product that is primarily developed in Latvia.

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About two years ago, I had a venture called OpenESM where we were trying to partner with Zabbix, but, quite frankly, I could not understand a word they said and felt in the end that we were going to have communication/support issues. Also, at the time I was thinking about OSS all wrong. I was trying to copy Groundwork’s cyber-sqwatting methodology to open source. Since then, I have been educated by some new friends and now I know a little more about how good OSS project should work (see Hyperic, Zenoss, OpenNMS, Puppet for examples). Anyway, Zabbix is a cool monitoring product that I am glad has found a home in the US. Let’s see what happens.

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Topics: groundwork, hyperic, monitoring, nagios, open source, opennms, opensource, puppet, zabbix, zenoss | 8 Comments »

8 Responses to “Zabbix Finds a Home in USA”

  1. Sasha Jablonski Says:
    November 29th, 2007 at 2:59 pm

    You haven’t differentiated these sufficiently. Putting your code out to open source and praying that a user community will materialize and help with development is the wrong way to go about it. Hyperic and Zenoss have done this and have essentially no community. Zabbix looks like an OK tool, let’s see if it has the staying power of Nagios and it’s huge community. I doubt it.

  2. John Says:
    November 29th, 2007 at 6:20 pm

    Shasa, thanks for the comment. I am always glad when someone takes the time to comment on my blog.

    No doubt Nagios is the community king of the bunch. However, most OSS product owners that I have talked to will tell you that there are usually only a few heavy lifers in a development community. For example, Ethan with Nagios. I think that Hyperic and Zenoss are betting not as much on the community for development but more for the penetration. I think commercially they have proved that vs. OOB Nagios. Groundworks in my opinion is a cyber squatter. A few weeks ago I would have listed Ethan at even par with Taurus of OpenNMS, however I was disappointed to see him join up in partnership with Groundworks. There is a history there and I guess in the end money talks .

  3. Ethan Galstad Says:
    November 30th, 2007 at 11:47 pm

    Hah! I guess I wouldn’t consider myself a lifer in terms of Nagios development, but its certainly been a big part of my life for the past nine years. Moving forward, there will likely be others that rise to take over development of Nagios, as I transition my role to other things – like, perhaps, basking in the Caribbean sun when its frickin’ freezing in Minnesota. :-)

    There’s no doubt that commercial companies want to capitalize on the communities that can spring up around OSS projects. So long as they don’t overstep boundaries, there’s nothing wrong with that. A healthy community means a solid potential client base when you deliver products and services they want. Nagios Enterprises, for example, is an an excellent position to capitalize on its relationship to the Nagios project and community. That also means we have a big responsibility to do things right.

    As far as a partnership with Groundwork is concerned, what’s the big deal? I wanted us to forge partnerships with other companies that provides additional products and services around or related to Nagios. Groundwork is just one of several partners we have today, with more coming in the future. In the end, that means more and better choices for users. If a client needs something that we can’t deliver with Nagios, perhaps Groundwork’s product can. Or mabye its Altinity’s Opsview product. More options are better for everyone.

    For me, I’ll take a Bushwhacker over a Green Flash or Mango Daiquiri. But that’s just what works best for me at the present moment.

  4. John Says:
    December 1st, 2007 at 12:54 am

    What do I know? I am just a stupid blogger who can’t even spell lifters correctly.

    However, IMHO, Groundwork are pure cyber-squatter that pulled together a bunch of software products to do a pump and dump. They were cavalier about it. When I met with those guys they kinda joked about how easy it was to grab OSS software and if there was any heavy lifting they had 20 guys in India who could just blow it out. In fact even ex-employees have told me that they were embarrassed by what they were doing with Nagios.

    Now, comes the harsh part….
    How come you never mentioned them on your site over the years? I have been following Nagios and Zabbix for about 3 years as an industry watcher and I would always see you post about companies using Nagios with no mention of Groundwork. I can’t image they never approached you to advertise on your site. I think most people took your ignoring them as an implied sign of disapproval. Ranga is a VC disguised as a CEO and all this PR about how he is your teacher and you are his student (come one). IMHO, time is running out for them w/ three rounds of 20+ million and still sub10m in revenue. Over the last few months they have been trying to re-define themselves. When I saw the announcement of Nagios Enterprises I was glad for you and I thought he should go out and conquer the world. I think you deserve everything you quest (Caribbean beaches and Bushwackers) for the mammoth efforts you have put into Nagios and how the world has benefited from your efforts.

    As for my opinion who cares? I am just a guy who hates VC’s and when I saw the announcement of Nagios Enterprises partnering with Groundwork it sure did have that deep dark stench of a couple of VC’s over martini’s planning everyone else’s lives.

    Anyway, I really do wish you all the success you deserve and by the way Bushwackers are my favorite beach drink. In fact I know a place in Pensacola Beach that serves the best Bushwackers in the world. Maybe someday we can pound a few (the 151 of course).

  5. Sasha Jablonski Says:
    December 4th, 2007 at 6:56 pm

    I checked out Groundwork based on your posts and noticed they have forums where lots of users of their open source distribution find answers. Also, it appears that they have a pretty cool front end configuration tool and a db back end that sets up Nagios very well for expansion. So for community, I don’t get the squatting part of it. You seem to have a sore spot for them but I don’t really see why. did you apply for job there? Your comment sounds like you’ve spoken with them..just asking..

  6. John Says:
    December 4th, 2007 at 8:29 pm

    Sasha,

    I am starting to get the feeling that you have some kind of connection with Groundworks. If you do can you get them to send me a tee shirt (FiveRuns did). However if you are really interested in knowing my detail thoughts about Groundwork here is some recommended reading:

    http://www.johnmwillis.com/wp/technology/what-does-ip-mean-to-me/
    http://www.johnmwillis.com/wp/general/reusable-ip/
    http://www.johnmwillis.com/wp/open-source-software/my-views-on-oss-esm-part-1/
    http://www.johnmwillis.com/wp/hyperic/my-views-on-oss-esm-part-2/
    http://www.johnmwillis.com/wp/oscon/my-views-on-oss-esm-part-3/
    http://www.johnmwillis.com/wp/hyperic/things-that-make-me-go-huh-005-2/

  7. John Says:
    December 4th, 2007 at 8:36 pm

    One more point….

    Zenoss and Hyperic developed the software they are sell. Groundwork did not (i.e., cyber squatter). By the way I am not the original author of that description of Groundwork. I got that description from AV.

  8. Kris Buytaert Says:
    April 21st, 2008 at 2:44 pm

    Hmm.. I can’t find any reference to Zabbix opening up a shop in the US.

    The partnership announcement is with a company in the Netherlands.. so I`m a bit confused.

    BTW .. I’ve got similar feelings about Groundworks :)

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