Comments on: Alternate Cloud 20 List http://www.johnmwillis.com/other/alternate-cloud-20-list/ JOHNMWILLIS BLOG Wed, 02 Jun 2010 23:53:59 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: ClickRich http://www.johnmwillis.com/other/alternate-cloud-20-list/comment-page-1/#comment-80330 ClickRich Fri, 22 Jan 2010 13:59:17 +0000 http://www.johnmwillis.com/?p=1436#comment-80330 Great list of contributors, but which business users do you think have been the biggest early adopters of utility computing? I know that the Telegraph Media Group in the UK are almost entirely using cloud apps... Great list of contributors, but which business users do you think have been the biggest early adopters of utility computing? I know that the Telegraph Media Group in the UK are almost entirely using cloud apps…

]]> By: Getting Cloudy at the Pentagon? | Paul Miller http://www.johnmwillis.com/other/alternate-cloud-20-list/comment-page-1/#comment-33769 Getting Cloudy at the Pentagon? | Paul Miller Thu, 15 Jan 2009 10:12:06 +0000 http://www.johnmwillis.com/?p=1436#comment-33769 [...] Alternate Cloud 20 List [...] [...] Alternate Cloud 20 List [...]

]]> By: Marcel Rivera http://www.johnmwillis.com/other/alternate-cloud-20-list/comment-page-1/#comment-33566 Marcel Rivera Wed, 14 Jan 2009 17:16:28 +0000 http://www.johnmwillis.com/?p=1436#comment-33566 Nick, Nice list... I've heard of the bigger ones as well as RightScale, Akamai, 3Tera & GoGrid. However, I'm a little in the dark about some of the others like Aptana. Any thoughts on tiering them or throwing in your likes on any of them? Nick,

Nice list…

I’ve heard of the bigger ones as well as RightScale, Akamai, 3Tera & GoGrid. However, I’m a little in the dark about some of the others like Aptana. Any thoughts on tiering them or throwing in your likes on any of them?

]]> By: John http://www.johnmwillis.com/other/alternate-cloud-20-list/comment-page-1/#comment-32472 John Thu, 08 Jan 2009 16:45:12 +0000 http://www.johnmwillis.com/?p=1436#comment-32472 You and me both.... You and me both….

]]> By: Mark Mastersin http://www.johnmwillis.com/other/alternate-cloud-20-list/comment-page-1/#comment-32396 Mark Mastersin Wed, 07 Jan 2009 21:38:37 +0000 http://www.johnmwillis.com/?p=1436#comment-32396 LOL. But I'd listen to that podcast, fer shure. LOL. But I’d listen to that podcast, fer shure.

]]> By: John http://www.johnmwillis.com/other/alternate-cloud-20-list/comment-page-1/#comment-32366 John Wed, 07 Jan 2009 15:11:35 +0000 http://www.johnmwillis.com/?p=1436#comment-32366 Nick, It's all in good fun... I hope you agree. Actually, I will admit I am a little bitter, because a few years ago someone accused me of swiping your electricity company metaphor from Does IT Matter. I pointed out to my accuser that I actually first used the "E-Met" back in 1999 at an IBM Share.org presentation while trying to promote an MSP startup venture. Anyway, I am actually a huge fan of your writings. I was wondering is now a good time to ask you if you would be interested in doing a podcast? :) Thanks John Nick,

It’s all in good fun… I hope you agree. Actually, I will admit I am a little bitter, because a few years ago someone accused me of swiping your electricity company metaphor from Does IT Matter. I pointed out to my accuser that I actually first used the “E-Met” back in 1999 at an IBM Share.org presentation while trying to promote an MSP startup venture.

Anyway, I am actually a huge fan of your writings. I was wondering is now a good time to ask you if you would be interested in doing a podcast? :)

Thanks
John

]]> By: Nick Carr http://www.johnmwillis.com/other/alternate-cloud-20-list/comment-page-1/#comment-32329 Nick Carr Wed, 07 Jan 2009 05:51:04 +0000 http://www.johnmwillis.com/?p=1436#comment-32329 John, Not bad - and, if I count correctly, a 50% overlap with my list. If you look at the full write-up in the book, by the way, you'll see that my intent was to provide a sense of the breadth of cloud computing, including consumer applications. As to my "just happening" to be working on a related book when the cloud hit, I can only point to my 2005 MIT/Sloan Management Review article, "The End of Corporate Computing," out of which "The Big Switch" grew: http://www.cs.sfu.ca/CC/301/cwa50/Readings/end_of_corporate_computing.pdf and to my 2004 book, Does IT Matter?, where I first wrote about the inevitability of utility computing. I like to think the market showed good timing in getting serious about the cloud at the same time my book came out. :-) Anyway, I agree with you: making metaphors is far more important work than making lists. Regards, Nick John,

Not bad – and, if I count correctly, a 50% overlap with my list. If you look at the full write-up in the book, by the way, you’ll see that my intent was to provide a sense of the breadth of cloud computing, including consumer applications. As to my “just happening” to be working on a related book when the cloud hit, I can only point to my 2005 MIT/Sloan Management Review article, “The End of Corporate Computing,” out of which “The Big Switch” grew:

http://www.cs.sfu.ca/CC/301/cwa50/Readings/end_of_corporate_computing.pdf

and to my 2004 book, Does IT Matter?, where I first wrote about the inevitability of utility computing. I like to think the market showed good timing in getting serious about the cloud at the same time my book came out. :-)

Anyway, I agree with you: making metaphors is far more important work than making lists.

Regards,

Nick

]]> By: John http://www.johnmwillis.com/other/alternate-cloud-20-list/comment-page-1/#comment-32274 John Tue, 06 Jan 2009 17:43:07 +0000 http://www.johnmwillis.com/?p=1436#comment-32274 I think 10Gen is defiitly a player. However, I am not sure who I would take of the list. Put it this way... I think Enomaly, Elastra, and 10gen would definitely be in the top 25. I think 10Gen is defiitly a player. However, I am not sure who I would take of the list. Put it this way… I think Enomaly, Elastra, and 10gen would definitely be in the top 25.

]]> By: Paul http://www.johnmwillis.com/other/alternate-cloud-20-list/comment-page-1/#comment-32273 Paul Tue, 06 Jan 2009 17:40:19 +0000 http://www.johnmwillis.com/?p=1436#comment-32273 Nice list John. No connection to them, but I would add 10gen. They offer an open source cloud platform (w/focus on dynamic languages) that appears to give traditional hosting companies a path to the cloud. They are also dealing with database issues head on. Nice list John. No connection to them, but I would add 10gen. They offer an open source cloud platform (w/focus on dynamic languages) that appears to give traditional hosting companies a path to the cloud. They are also dealing with database issues head on.

]]> By: John http://www.johnmwillis.com/other/alternate-cloud-20-list/comment-page-1/#comment-32269 John Tue, 06 Jan 2009 16:09:08 +0000 http://www.johnmwillis.com/?p=1436#comment-32269 Thanks Mark. The list is just in Alpha order and actually making a list that only includes 20 is kind of silly ( I was forced to do it ). I made it more of a cut off list than anything else. It really should be done by category, IMO... John Thanks Mark. The list is just in Alpha order and actually making a list that only includes 20 is kind of silly ( I was forced to do it ). I made it more of a cut off list than anything else. It really should be done by category, IMO…

John

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